A 'Generosity Rank' Algorithm For Steemit - Less Rewards Pool Exploitation & Increased Quality of Posts?

4 months ago
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A successful community is one where mutual respect is high and if Steem's value is to go 'to the moon' it will help greatly for the community to be motivated and inspired to help each other. Perhaps the biggest point of contention and argument - plus the issue that puts off new users to Steemit the most - is that users with large wallets can upvote themselves onto the trending page and large payouts with much lower quality posts than the new users and those with small wallets might be creating. If the measure of the subjective value of posts is mostly being defined by the posts own posters then what use is that measurement really? How can this situation be resolved without angering existing users who like things as they are? Maybe I have part of the solution...

Read my original post about my proposed Generosity Rank Algorithm.

Wishing you well!

Ura Soul


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  ·  4 months ago

Hi @ura-soul, this is a very interesting proposal and I can say that it's the first time I've heard anyone suggest this as a potential solution.

A generosity ranking is a worthy project, I'm not sure that some of the big players would like their 'generocity' on display, but it's a good way for potential voters to know what their vote is going towards -
ie - wealth concentration or a more fairly distributed system

You've put a good deal of thought into this and I appreciate that you're not trying to place the blame on specific actors or groups. There are always going to be those who will take advantage of flaws in the system for personal gain, we all know this but that doesn't mean that we cannot come up with creative ways to improve the ecosystem so that we all can thrive.

I hope this post gets more attention because its worthy of discussion at the very least. Cheers, brother

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  ·  4 months ago

You are welcome, thanks for your support here. I haven't seen it before either and I feel it is one of the most effective possible solutions to this problem without making major changes to the way that the steem system functions today.

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  ·  4 months ago

I love the idea. While all systems like this will ultimately be gamed and optimized, a well designed system will still encourage the desired behavior with minimal perverse unintended consequences.

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  ·  4 months ago

Well said!

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  ·  4 months ago

Great initiative that you have taken, people like you are needed to improve the system and at the same time share your knowledge to be all generators of innovative ideas, thanks!

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  ·  4 months ago

We need a civility algorithm as well. After all the abusive mudslinging that went on the the Haejin V Bernie Sanders "reward Pool Rape" war we could use a way to reward civility. Not that one can legislate ethics but we could at least reward it. Perhaps the @steemitboard could figure out a way to create a badge for it.

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  ·  4 months ago

Civility is a massively more complicated challenge to solve since it relies on deep awareness of the meaning and use of language on a level that I think even many AI systems would find challenging to grasp effectively. I'm not sure I like the idea of rewarding it anyway, since that would inspire lots of fake smiles and pretend happy words that feel terrible.. That is exactly the kind of reality I want to stop from being created.

Ultimately, if we like the way a person behaves then we will probably be more likely to reward them, so as usual the solution to this issue is in evolving the emotional body to allow healing and balancing.

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  ·  4 months ago

Creating badges for low word count posts with cursing etc would be a great idea. It won't affect the rewards directly. But when a person goes to a site and search a user name to find a bunch of not so good badges would help steemians get an idea about certain characters.

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  ·  4 months ago

I think it's a good idea, I should also say that many of the new users have great ideas in their publication and they are very little observed by the steemit community

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  ·  4 months ago

thanks, yes - maybe this will help solve that.

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  ·  4 months ago

Hello Ura, thanks for the Generosity Rank Algorithm article. One can see that you care about Steemit.

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  ·  4 months ago

You are welcome!

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  ·  3 months ago

This is brilliant !
Not that I have seen people "cheating" the system but since a tol of money is at stake I'm sure so many would do their best to cheat !
making it harder would only prevent small cheaters because they would say it's not worth bigger effort unlike those who will do even more effort for bigger amounts of money. But that's something !
It's terrible how money brings the worst out of humanity 😏

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  ·  4 months ago

great post @ura-soul!! thanks for sharing your information with us !!steem is very interesting to work at as it is easy and can money also!!

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  ·  4 months ago

good

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  ·  4 months ago

nice your post

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  ·  4 months ago

Wow amazing post i like it .

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  ·  3 months ago

With one paragraph you have proposed a solution to possibly every issue that affects Steem.

I have just read through the other article.. just amazing. This will be the topic of my vlog tomorrow. Thank you and I will try to gather as much support as my minnow fins allow for.

Just realized: that of course this would be gamed and abused by sock puppet accounts. So I have an off the top of the head solution: Generosity points are ONLY for (x) amount of votes per week to the same account, and work in the opposite for continuous voting of the same account. So if account b up votes 10 posts per day made by account a, the first (x) will count towards the generosity rating, the rest will count against it.

This might be a needed fix - as I can already see many whales will just slightly change their upvoting game and look like the most generous people out.

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  ·  4 months ago

A very nice idea that will help us increase wallet.

thanks for the idea.