Non-GumpyCompliant vote sellers are now to be used exclusively to profit from the reward pool!

8 days ago
63 in abuse

From now on Bid-bots that are not GumpyCompliant are to be used exclusively to profit from the reward pool (not post promotion). That's already about 95% of what they are being used for so it shouldn't make much of a difference to them!

All legit post promotion on quality content using non-compliant bots are at risk of being GrumpyFlagged!

What is GrumpyCompliance? : GrupyCompliance was annouced with a top post 14 days ago. and a reminder sent 7 days later. It is a new requirement for vote selling services to refuse and refund purchases for votes on posts that are more than 3.5 day old.

It is intended to fight the nothing at stake people from profiting from buying upvotes on low quality content at the last few hours.

1. Gives us more time to flag them (3.5 days > 12h).

2. Increase their risk with STEEM/SBD price fluctuation.

(normal post promoters are spending SBD that may not be worth much more than 1 USD when it pays out.

3. More at stake.

We will be able to wipe out 3.5 days worth of their reward sucking posts instead of only last 12h. (they post crap and buy votes all day long)

To know what voting bot to use when promoting legit content, refer to SteemBotTracker.com (by @yabapmatt) and only use those that have 3.5 day or less in the "Max Age" column.

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  ·  8 days ago

Sounds fair enough @grumpycat. Easy to fall into the greed of buying votes at the last moment though.
And thanks for the steembottracker info. Hadn't come across it yet and was using minnowbooster only so far. Now I know of more bots I can use.

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I get that they are trying to curb last miniute post promotion but if the system wasnt designed for that but was designed to allow such promotion then what is the problem? Why do people need to be Grumpy compliant certainly not just because a whale says so. this is like creating centralization within steemit. Next whales will be making other Rule bots that punish people for whatever they want. Also what is the appeal process for mistakes when thy are made(or are we sol if that happens)? Just curious that this isue wasnt brought to the attention of all steemians and voted on(at least by the witnesses). Seriously this may not be a super big deal but the underlying issue of people being able to create and enforce laws that the community hasn't agreed upon is a HUGE issue. Correct me if i am wrong or misguided on any of my suppositions. @grumpycat im just trying to figure out what gave you the power/right to enact what equates to a law with this bot?

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  ·  7 days ago

You should really see how these people abuse bot votes at the eleventh hour:

https://steemit.com/steem/@grumpycat/sample-of-nothing-at-stake-peoples-empowered-on-6th-day-by-voting-bots

Interestingly, their timezone is in South Asia around 3-7 am US time zone where, bidding competition for bots are lower. They used big bot votes such as @upme, @buildawhale @appreatiator with total $6-$10 or more SBD. They also reinvest earned SBD and withdraw some regularly. Easiest spamming business based on ROI in the world.

Please go through these users post including this https://steemit.com/@banglabhai.

Reason behind 3.5 days compliance rule is that when they used low level contents (e.g. mostly copy and paste Youtube videos) for bot voting, they will be prone to SBD fluctuation and flagging for plagiarism. This will reduce the abuse of rewardpool. Witnesseses and STINC are slow to react, therefore, some whales have to take action. Their actions are self-servicing. If they don't work for good purposes of STEEM, their investment will go down and they have the largest stake.

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55
  ·  7 days ago

Yeah and you're giving yourself 200 dollars for a bullshit sentence?

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hahha dude

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You didn't flag it so why do you call it bullshit?

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  ·  7 days ago

@grumpycat I wrote you a question on another post but dint get an answer. I really dont understand you. If you want to help you are supossed to be a rolemodel. Now another comment with more value than every posts I wrote together.Would be happy to get an answer for the community.

"@grumpycat I dont get it. I agree with your rules. But shouldnt you be a kind of a rolemodel. You are upvoting simple comments with big upvotes and taking much of the reward pool.That affect the reward pool. Even with one comment you got you over 185 dollar. I wrote much posts with much effort but I think all together are less worth than your comment I hope you will act like you teach people.

I have some ideas how you could help the steemit community. Check out post that dont earn much and support underrated posts. Steem rises and falls with the users."

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  ·  3 days ago

Good luck getting an answer to this.

Abuse 3.png

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  ·  7 days ago

I also do not understand: why can not I get 140 usd for a photo, and you can get 190 usd for a usual comment? Not fair...

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  ·  6 days ago

I guess he has a lot of SP

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@grumpycat, I think I'm starting to see the light. Sorry for questioning you in an earlier post. Things are starting to make sense now. Go grumpycat go!

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It’s nice when that “aha” moment happens and you realize that grumpy knows what’s up! Kudos to you.

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  ·  3 days ago

Are you fucking joking?

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  ·  4 days ago

Kind of makes one feel a little silly for complaining before they see the light, lol

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  ·  3 days ago

Are you fucking joking?

Abuse 3.png

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  ·  4 days ago

I'm coming for you @grumpycat

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  ·  6 days ago

true.. somebody posting a stupid photo or wishing a happy new year gets 100z or 1000z of $$ its so stupid.. now i know why whales and their friends make somuch... Thank you for your support..

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  ·  yesterday

its batter not to flag someone you should build relationships on this platform so instead of giving flag just ignore the post you don't like
@grumpycat 👌👍

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  ·  7 days ago

Wow After taking a look at some of that information you provided it clarified much of the issue for me. I mostly didn't understand The value of such policing but it makes sense when you look at it as they are spamming. I don't use bots personally, but my hope is that if someone malevolent creates a similar apparatus and it IS unfair then the whales will do something about it (downvote to oblivion). Thanks for your feedback its a good premise but still not a fan of the Grumpy Cat Shit. Just look at your quality comment compared to its pure shit comment and how much rewards they are earning for it. They could at least help those who are being helpful. anyways thanks for your input

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The thing is, the system is really designed for much of anything. The bid bots are a creation of users of Steemit. There are basically no laws, so it's up to the users to decide what is bad or good for the long term of the platform. No one can really make laws, but the powerful can flex their muscles. Grumpycat sees this as being bad for the platform, so he's enforcing it with his muscle.

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  ·  5 days ago

Everyone seems to conveniently overlook that the Terms of Service forbid bots:

17.1.3. Use any robot, spider, crawler, scraper or other automated means or interface not provided by us to access our Services or to extract data;

When you are using a upvote bot, you are effectively : Hiring ( Using ) a bot ( robot ), to upvote your post ( Accessing our Services ).

I think @grumpycat is taking a step in the right direction, and I hope more whales can step up to discourage the use of bots, outright. This is supposed to be a 'proof-of-brains' platform, exactly how does paying a fee to a robot fit into the equation? I see bots as the main obstacle that could ruin steem, many newcomers here see the botting on their first day, wonder why so many people abandon their accounts? Do you think steemit will become a household name like this?

Oh there is this great platform called steemit, all you have to do is write a great blog everyday, then pay a service 500 dollars to promote it for you - it's the future of Social Media!
Get Real.

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  ·  8 days ago

Hola, estoy de acyerdo contigo. Pienso que estan creando un nuevo problema...
¿Asumen si hago que un post de calidad, no deberia comprar votos?
Es importante reglarlo, pero dichos bots podrain mantenerse bajo otro esquema de voto


Hi, I'm with you. I think you are creating a new problem ...
Do they assume if I make a quality post, I should not buy votes?
It is important to regulate it, but these bots could be maintained under another voting scheme

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  ·  8 days ago

Ideally, you should not need to buy votes. A quality post should gain votes because it is a good quality post.

This is failing to happen specifically because of voting bots. If they were not in the equation, good quality posts would get upvoted naturally.

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  ·  8 days ago

Youre right menn.
Give the Upvote... Steem for life

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  ·  4 days ago

I am new to @steem and I had no idea about this. I just poored a lot of money into voting bots for the first time (evar) this week. I probably won't do it again because I lost my shirt thanks to @grumpycat. I get that greedy people hurt things, but stealing from unsuspecting people that are new and just trying to get started in the community...YOU ARE SCUM @grumpycat. Downvoting is already wrong in itself because you are literally taking money away from people.

@grumpycat If you're going to do something despicable like downvote people that hired voting bots, you should at least leave them with the amount they put in. That way, you're just taking away their profits. Instead, you're taking what they put in. You don't know where that money comes from. It could be really hard for them to make and you take it just by clicking your mouse. It's horrible.

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  ·  4 days ago

You're not getting it I think. @grumpycat is not downvoting people at random here. He/she/it is downvoting those users who use the voting bots at the last hour to suck up upvotes.
Now I think it is fair enough punishment for them as most of these users are boosting their non qualitative posts very near to pay out and hence decreasing the voting power of the bots for genuine users.

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  ·  3 days ago

That may be, but they're not very selective either; otherwise, more meaningful downvotes would be made. They may not be random, but it's not better than just throwing mud on a wall and seeing what sticks either.

You can't just hurt people and take the moral high ground thinking you help more than you hurt, so that's ok. Taking is taking. Stealing is stealing. The point of the downvote is to adjust the value of the post.

I worked for hours in the AZ heat to get nice sunset photos on my way overpriced camera that I really can't afford. I used the upvote bot to set a fair value for the photos and the time I put into taking them. Then @grumpycat comes and downvotes it to $5.

Yeah. Maybe they're not random, but they might as well be random. This is a ABSOLUTE ABUSE OF A DOWNVOTE. The point is to adjust and prevent abuse, but this account has taken it to the extreme and it's just abuse on the other end. There is no balance.

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I still think it is not random. It is not only about the time, read the first few lines on the comment and you'll understand, I hope.

image

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  ·  3 days ago

I've read it. You'll have to spell it out for me. I'm not sure what you're referring to.

Let's say for the sake of argument it's not random, then it's arbitrary. @grumpycat arbitrarily chooses. Here are my points.

  1. @brandonfrye uses @jerrybanfield which is listed as a compliant voting bot. Not only is it compliant, but also @brandonfrye gets dinged within a day of posting. He did not abuse the voting bot nor did he use an abusive voting bot, so why? You should read @grumpycat's response. https://steemit.com/steemit/@brandonfrye/steemit-upvote-bots-still-profitable-or-waste-of-money
  2. @purepinay used @appreciator which is also one of the compliant voting bots. She also got dinged and took it like a champ anyway. Read @grumpycat's response https://steemit.com/steemit/@purepinay/thinking-about-tomorrow-today-reinvest-and-power-up

Even better...@grumpycat also uses @appreciator

So maybe it's not random. If it's not, then it's definitely based on an arbitrary set of rules that can be changed on a whim because they have nothing to do with actually compliant voting bots or 6th day voting. It's more like

Just because

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  ·  3 days ago

Maybe I don't get it, but I'll say something about what everyone else (including @grumpycat) doesn't get. The purpose of downvotes is not to correct voting bots. Downvotes are to correct rewards. I think we all look at them wrong when it comes to @grumpycat. We think

Oh, whatever @grumpycat thinks is right

But in reality, the downvote is intended to adjust the payout to what the community thinks is appropriate. By completely negating a bot's influence we forget the see if we're actually adjusting the payout to what is appropriate or not. What ends up happening is a guy like me that wants to get what has coming to him uses a bot to adjust his payout to be proportionate to his effort. Here's an example:

I spend several hours in the sun to make sure no one gets my prime spot for taking a sunset photo. I sit and wait in the AZ heat and sun for hours with no shade with my camera that I really can't afford. I finally get a series of photos that I post on steem thinking people will appreciate with some upvotes. I notice that I'm not getting upvotes. Why? I have no followers and I have mostly no steem power compared to anyone else. I get a voting bot to help me out and push the vote up so more people will see it and so I can get paid for the hours I spent in the sun.

@grumpycat comes along and wipes it out down to $5. $5 for hours in the sun.

I get @grumpycat is trying to change the community and hit the voting bots, but voting bots and their management don't care. The only ones getting hurt are content creators. Voting bots will survive, but we suffer and die. It's not voting bots killing us. It's @grumpycat.

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  ·  8 days ago

Nice post!
Thanks for this!
Upvoted :D

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  ·  8 days ago

He's the hero Steemit needs right now, but not the one it deserves.

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  ·  7 days ago

why do you say that? what do you mean not the one it deserves?

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Chill, it's just a dialog from Batman.

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  ·  7 days ago

LOL, just imagine it like this:

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"When the bat-signals glow,
The Grumpy-Bat says NO."

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  ·  7 days ago

Should that not be the Cat Signal?

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"Why so serious?"

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hehe not sure if you are being funny as well, but to clarify it was a joke my friend ;) Cat signal for a Grumpy Cat, makes sense no?

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  ·  6 days ago

Oh ho ... missed the reference lol. thanks yesaye. Dam marvel movies have me forgetting my batman lines :p

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  ·  6 days ago

No probs dahlsom, we fall so that we can learn to pick ourselves up! ;)

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we are full of shit... 💩

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  ·  7 days ago

Post-promoting at the last minute is not usually beneficial. In my opinion though, it's a decentralized system and for as long as we don't hack into their algorhythm, we are free to observe how the system works and maximize the use of it. On other social media, people hire promoters to increase their 'likes' and shares. People create many dummy accounts and email adresses to help make videos viral for example. -But it's their freedom to do that. Celebrities, for example can pay people for more likes on yT as 'investment'. The only difference here is we use bots and they're accessible to any member following their rules.

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  ·  7 days ago

Although other social media doesn’t have a reward mechanic built into it, you’re not taking away from other people by using it.

The main thing here is that, on a social network, content is king. If people quickly learn that they can game the system with terrible content plus bots it will - drive new users away as all they see is awful stuff riding high and draw away rewards from those who are actually putting the effort in.

It’s nice to think that the network is self-governing within its own mechanics, but if you take your hands off the wheel and start to drift off the road, you have to put them on it again and enforce a correction.

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The issue is, (as I see it) that there is already a promotion mechanism within Steem. It exists so that when people come to actually advertise something, it burns STEEM for the good of everyone who holds it. The idea of post promotion was, yeah, you can pay to get eyes on your content, but it has to be good for you to recoup your cost and promoted content isn't at the expense of the users, it is to all of their benefit. The bid bot system pays someone for having their own content promoted. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

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  ·  4 days ago

That's a good point. I think @fourfourfun is right saying "content is king". That's the beauty of it! You get paid for promoting your content with bid bots. -But it doesn't mean anyone can get away with posting a blank page (or random letters) and paying a robot to vote it for easy money. I would flag it if I see one. -A video won't go viral if there's just static in it. No matter how many promoters get paid. -There's still a natural law of society (normal human behavior) governing these. Gumpy, I think, just goes to the frontline, like the first line of defense for abuse. What I'm saying is it's a good project. It helps reduce abuse so that the reward pool won't be 'raped'. Maximizing the use of the system doesn't mean abusing it, you know because real people read posts. Content is king. - That's right.

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  ·  5 days ago

Yes, keep it real and organic.

Bots are NOT human, and cannot really write or create.

Keep rockin,
@steemrockin

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  ·  6 days ago

wow amazing.
yes agree with your opnion.
@qami

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  ·  8 days ago

Great idea!

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  ·  8 days ago

While your heart might be in the right place and I certainly can't stop you, I do want to take the time to say, I do not appreciate the spirit or actions you are taking. I do support the idea that you are passionate on the platform. I feel this behavior is every bit as bad for my investment and the occassional shit post making money from voting bots, or your own upvotes on comments.
@whatsup

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  ·  8 days ago

I feel that his intent may be in the right place as well but think that his efforts would be better directed at Steemit Inc and the Witnesses by encouraging a change to the in-built functionality of the platform itself. It should be able to self-police all users via an equitable rule set that applies to everyone, irrespective of status, SP amount, etc. That would be the ideal change on a holistic level.

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  ·  8 days ago

People are self-policing right now, what sort of change are you proposing?

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Self-policing is problematic because it's unwritten law. Newbies can get penalized for doing things that they don't necessarily know are wrong, and that seem to be legitimate and OK.

It's ridiculous to expect every new user to learn an unwritten set of rules that are enforced by various community whales and their bots.

While most automated down-voting is targeting larger accounts and is done with good intention, the better approach would be to set up community guidelines for what actions are and are not appropriate, and modify the code where possible to prevent inappropriate actions from taking place to begin with.

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  ·  7 days ago

Yeah, a lot of stuff on this platform is not self-explanatory, so newbies can come in without knowing how stuff works and get burned. It can be a bit uninviting.

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  ·  8 days ago

Be a normal human and don't try to shill bid your post and @grumpycat would go to sleep. He is only awake because a group of youtube shills have appeared on steemit producing shit content and gaming the reward pool. This is how the community reacts to shills.

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  ·  7 days ago

I don't think you know what the word shill means.

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  ·  2 days ago

Yup, I am sure you are the smarter of the two of us. That's why I understand and you don't get it.

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  ·  8 days ago

As @weaselhouse noted in his response, self-policing is counter productive as it imposes a set of rules onto Steemit which the platform itself does not uphold or expect users to abide by.

For example, many users complain about self voting abuse but it's permitted by the platform. So until Steemit stops allowing it, then complaining about it is inconsequential. The founders themselves acknowledged its propensity as a feature to be abused in the Steem White Paper, where it's said: "...each individual voter has incentive to vote for themselves at the expense of the larger community goal." And here we are today, two years later and self voting is still an issue.

In reference to @grumpycat's initiative, it appears to be predicated upon a desire to root out users that engage in reward pool abuse, with an emphasis on targeting those users and voting services that seek/offer upvotes 3.5 days after a post is published. The problem with this is that Steemit itself allows upvotes on posts up to day 7. And there are some voting services that are manually operated and thus have backlogs - a user may pay for a vote on day 2 but not receive it until day 4 or 5, for example.

As the saying goes, "Don't hate the player, hate the game." There are no doubt users that play the game here, but they are doing so within the rules of the platform. So for wide reaching and constructive changes to be implemented, compliance initiatives such as what Grumpy Cat is engaging in are better enforced by being coded into future iterations of Steemit itself. In this manner, the updated rules of the game apply to all users equitably. And that requires buy in from Steemit Inc and the Witnesses. That is who Grumpy Cat and others should be engaging for reform.

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  ·  8 days ago

I feel like witnesses are reluctant to speak their mind because steemit inc has such a huge stake that it would take just one click to vote any of them out . It's an intimidation game, even if not directly perceived as such.
I can't think of any other reason for witnesses to be so passive on these issues.

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  ·  8 days ago

If there was ever a time for Witnesses to speak up, it's now.

Steem has broken out above its previous all time highs and momentum is bullish to kick off 2018. However, for that to be sustained, constructive improvements to this platform will have to be implemented. It is after all the prevailing proof of concept for the steem blockchain, though that may soon change with the introduction of smart media tokens.

I assume that is Grumpy Cat's intention, among others pursuing similar initiatives. Ultimately though, the reform has to come from the top and not from self policing efforts led by different whales with varying points of view on what users should and should not do. Their intent may be sound, but the execution isn't in the long run.

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  ·  7 days ago

Hopefully SMTs and Communities will break up the ability for large stakeholders to create such drama.

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  ·  7 days ago

Agreed and upvoted

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  ·  8 days ago

I think I understand what you are trying to do, on the other hand do you think that mathematically this is a good thing to do? I mean you are doing this because the reward pool is being drained by people who are using up vote posts in a way that hurts others right? But the way I see it, I might be wrong , is X person invests 500 SBD on 5 upvote posts, now he gets a return on this which gives him say a 50 % profit that would make the amount he gets to be 750 SBD (about say $4,000.00 to just put a price on it) you then downvote these posts for the same amounts. So we have $4,000.00 the upvote bot gave which are lost and you also lose $4,000.00 without any curation reward (I am not sure if a downvote doesn't give curation rewards) but what I am getting at is that both of you lose, and I don't see how this helps the reward pool. I think you would do the community a better service by upvoting say 200 posts with a 3.75 SBD vote.
I always try things out, I tried 3 upvote posts, I lost on one and got a 20% profit on the other two, now I know upvote bots are here to stay, but personally I don't like them that much, of course that is my opinion I respect whatever everyone else thinks.

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The reward pool stays the same. If he downvotes $4,000 dollars worth, that isn't taken out of the reward pool, it just means $4,000 is divided equally among all the other posts. Think of upvotes more as shares of the reward pool than actual $. So, if the reward pool was $1,000,000 it will stay fixed. If every post and comment got downvoted to 0 except yours, you would get the full $1,000,000, no matter how small your upvote was.

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  ·  6 days ago

Hi~ goof post and interesting

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  ·  7 days ago

cute!!

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  ·  7 days ago

it's good!

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  ·  8 days ago

Can someone explain to me, does it cost vote power to flag someone's post? If so, then I see no issue with anyone flagging posts for this reason..

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Yes, and no curation reward.

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  ·  7 days ago

I believe the Germans love @grumpycat more than David Hasselhoff.

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Great move @grumpycat, it best serves the community.

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I openly use bots and often check what other posts are in the list for an upvote and yes. Most of it is shit. I have a post I want to promote because I want engagement not because I want money. Steemit #openmic has also been over run with scammers as of late. Fight back genuine steemers! FIGHT baCK !!!!!!

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  ·  7 days ago

Today is only my fourth day here but it doesn't seem like the bots should be allowed at all. It's an unfair advantage that steals money from the pool. The biggest problem is that it promotes shitty content into the trending list... Which drives away new users from the platform. Just my opinion from an outsider looking in perspective. Love the wealth of information on here though. Still in the research stages so I could be way off base.

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Are bots for vote selling worse than this?
https://steemit.com/@checkthisout/comments
Check for grumpy's votes there. It is his other account.
Why is selling votes worse than this?

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I dont think either practice should be acceptable in this community. If it where banned it would level out the playing field and we would have more active daily users. My opinion may change on the matter, still trying to figure it all out...

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@stimialiti Difference: Upvoting is allowed, Bots are forbidden in the terms of service. Also every flag that grumpy makes is from their own investments, and they get no reward from flagging.

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Thanks for explaining the difference.

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  ·  13 hours ago

Did you check checkthisout/comments ?
You justify it by the flags he dished?
It may be the biggest case of comment farming in Steem's history.

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Yes I DID, @stimialati , two separate issues, if you dont think bots are bad, well we are never going to agree on that.

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  ·  13 hours ago

The playing field could never be leveled.
Some of the users premined and have a huge stake which would otherwise be too damn expensive to buy.

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I certainly couldn't afford much voting power. I'm still glad to join while it's new and I can grow in time. Need to improve my writing skill in the mean time. I'm ok with it not being a level playing field, just happy I got invited to play. Lol. Thanks again for your input.

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  ·  3 hours ago

It is not new.
I believe that not only it will never be 1/100 the size of Facebook, it will not even last to be 1/2 as old as Facebook is now.
It is unsustainable to store and make accessible all the spam that is here and will only continue to grow, without deleting it.
And deletions are problematic in a blockchain, for the witnesses and developers are considered herecy.
They prefer to try to maintain a lot of garbage than to get rid of some of the garbage.
Freedom and decentralization do not bode with efficiency, profitability and sustainability.
If you want to grow in time, use the bidbot I use to upvote your not voted comments once they reached a certain age of your choice lesser than 6 days and a few hours.
Trading Steem for SBD back and forth in the internal market through your wallet here is another way to grow, it does not use bidbots, but it is not guaranteed to succeed.
Most bidbots here I recommend to not use regardless of your wrong opinion about bidbots.
Paying to most bidbots is a risky business since most of them have a "no refunds" policy, and shit does happen a lot, it includes misses, owner use of own bidbot to upvote own, family's and collaborators' accounts which comes at the expense of the real customers, and more.

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  ·  7 days ago

seems like exactly what we have been looking for

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  ·  8 days ago

As I said before, a noble cause you have taken up here, @grumpycat. I wish you the best in your efforts to secure the reward pool for quality contributions.

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  ·  5 days ago

Ridiculous! now the cat is eligible to destroy humans.

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  ·  7 days ago

Sounds like very good intentions but some negative consequences for all the new users of Steemit that might fall victim to a down vote.

53
  ·  8 days ago

Well .. Underatand .. Thanks

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  ·  7 days ago

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  ·  8 days ago

So judging from this post...

-Appreciator
-Buildawhale
-Upme
-Postpromoter
-Upmyvote
-sneakyninja

Are all grumpycat complaint vote bots?

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  ·  7 days ago

@grumpycat thank you for helping the bid bots be more for marketing a post than for just taking a profit out of the rewards pool and for using my GumpyCompliant bot! The majority of the bots used to upvote this post were not GumpyCompliant!

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  ·  5 days ago

LOL. This is what I was wondering... Which ones ARE grumpy cat compliant?

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  ·  8 days ago

PhotoLab_app_cat_paw_IMG_20171227_214914.jpg

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  ·  8 days ago

wonderful..

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  ·  8 days ago

thx😺

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  ·  8 days ago

Nice one @loonatic
👍👍

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  ·  8 days ago

good job @grumpycat!!

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  ·  8 days ago

What about when you down vote posts that are not breaking this rule?, Then what? Do we keep making posts about your activity like I was force to do with this posts: https://steemit.com/steemit/@dineroconopcion/is-grumpycat-abusing-it-s-steempower

You never replies to comment. SteemCleaners are least let users know how to get the Downvote removed: Fix this and that. You are not even capable of doing that. Who runs this account?, a 9 year old?, asking the real questions that other are too afraid to ask :)

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  ·  7 days ago

Guess what pal, those with the greatest stakes make the rules. Hence why @grumpycat is able to flag the shit out of you and you can't do anything about it except make a post whining about @grumpycat abusing his power. If you haven't noticed he has quite a bit invested in the platform and the platform is designed with those having the biggest stake wielding the biggest stick. If you don't like it call STINC Human Resources. Their number is 1-800-WE DONT GIVE A FUCK.

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@Dineroconopcion,

You are obviously tilted, I suggest you call it a day. I think you don't see the bigger picture that @grumpycat is in for. If you ask me (a simple minnow) yóu are the 9 year old who keeps whining because he got a downvote. Please stop being so self focussed.

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  ·  8 days ago

Can't read?

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  ·  8 days ago

hahahahahhaaahahahahahahah!!

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  ·  8 days ago

Grumpy cat

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  ·  8 days ago

Who puts out such poor articles that with 10,000+ youtube followers needs to purchase 1,000 sbd in upvotes? You can go back to youtube and take your followers with you. We don't need your kind shitting everywhere like a non house broken mutt.

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  ·  7 days ago

I really appreciate your effort to balance Steemit @grumpycat.

We must bring balance for this community to continue rapidly expanding. I fully support this effort.

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  ·  8 days ago

How many bots are there that this is an issue? Back in the day I used randowhale but we’re talking about an SBD or to not thousands.

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  ·  8 days ago

That’s a lot of bots! I might have to look into using the non spammy ones to get a bit more visibility and hopefully avoid any issues with other users. Thanks!

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  ·  7 days ago

This post has received a 100% UpGoat from @shares. Send at least 0.1 SBD to @shares with a post link in the memo field.

To support our daily curation initiative, please donate 0.01 SBD or delegate Steem Power (SP) to @shares.

Support my owner. Please vote @Yehey as your Witness.

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  ·  8 days ago

thanks for nothing grumpy cat

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  ·  5 days ago

Can we lobby steemit to block users who sell votes? If so, how do we do that?

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  ·  6 days ago

So bast post..😇 plz vot me

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  ·  3 days ago

This is the best post on Steemit upvote me.

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  ·  6 days ago

Is the best. Good post.
I like it.

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  ·  5 days ago

steam steam steam, and the best steam today. just an opinion #steemit #steem #trending

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  ·  6 days ago

totally in accordance with his argument

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  ·  5 days ago

hmm that is so good post
thank you very much

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  ·  7 days ago

And thanks for the steembottracker info. Hadn't come across it yet and was using minnowbooster only so far. Now I know of more bots I can use.

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  ·  7 days ago

thank you for information, to me as to the novice it very useful, I put the vote for you.Throw on anymore such information to me it very interestingly)

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  ·  7 days ago

Well done, this is beautiful

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  ·  8 days ago

hello @grumpycat. Thanks for the steembottracker info. Hadn't come across it yet and was using minnowbooster. I'll try it quickly to use it

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  ·  8 days ago

huh sweet cat :)

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  ·  8 days ago

Fair enough.
By the way why are you behind Crypto Traders.
I am a Crypto Analyst as well.
But Rewards Ratio is low.


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  ·  8 days ago

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Keep it up !👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

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  ·  8 days ago

Your profile photo is so funny

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  ·  8 days ago

No matter how secure a system is, there'll always be those who's ambition will be to beat the system.

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  ·  4 days ago

great post..i like.

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  ·  8 days ago

I think a deeper look at what goes on needs to be looked at and a more permanent solution to abuse is found.
I ask from been in the blind, how much is acceptable for an article put here?
I see this one earns 1.3K and it is a repost of information put up previous. should this post get the rewards or the previous two?
Maybe a cap on the amount a post can make and if more then one post per 24 hour , the max amount goes down for each post there after.

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  ·  8 days ago

Thanks a lot @grumpycat for sharing your view on buying votes, it will definately help all steemians to be aware of bot, steembottracker info was the best it is my pleasure to upvote, follow and resteem this post. Once again thanks :)

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  ·  8 days ago

How to strengthen the account and raise the balance
I do not want to waste much time to no avail
Note that I choose beautiful themes and also touch what is going on around us !

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  ·  8 days ago

My grumpy cat is here too 🐈 😍 DSCF1931.JPG

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  ·  8 days ago

great post. keep it up.

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  ·  8 days ago

is this not abuse of steem power?

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  ·  8 days ago

Lol.
Nice write up tho. A fair and easy campaign

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  ·  8 days ago

@grumpycat when are you going to move more money from your big account to this account and really shake things up?

You have them so worked up using peanuts worth of your real power. Holy shit if your main account flagged someone.

I do love the change of heart by the way, very honorable of you.

It would be twice as awesome if you made the vote bots stop over selling their vote too. Or cap them at any amount over 10 sbd at once

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  ·  7 days ago

wipes juices from mouth

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  ·  2 days ago

Purr purr purr

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  ·  8 days ago

Nice post!
Thanks for this!
Upvoted :D

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  ·  8 days ago

Thanks @grumpycat

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  ·  8 days ago

What is the breed of the cat or in this profile photo? always attracts my attention

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  ·  8 days ago

really cathedic

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  ·  8 days ago

IF YOU UPVOTE YOU GET A FREE REAL CAT WORTH 700000000 etherium

(JK)

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  ·  8 days ago

Thanks a lot @grumpycat for your post! and I wish you good luck

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  ·  5 days ago

this is an anomaly that must be solved and must be spread to all of us steemians especially like us newbies...
thank you for the information.
really helpful for me...
because my first blog had a time of 17 hours ago, instead of a minute ago... makes me really wonder what i have done wrong.
and more questions...

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  ·  8 days ago

nerds

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  ·  8 days ago

Gracias @ grumpycat, es una información muy importante para los nuevos en steemit.
Al menos yo no estaba al tanto del problema es usar bots.
Gracias tambien por la pagina: SteemBotTracker.com

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Thanks @ grumpycat, it is a very important information for those new to steemit.
At least I was not aware of the problem is to use bots.
Thanks also for the page: SteemBotTracker.com

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  ·  yesterday

Good

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  ·  8 days ago

muy bueno me gusto mucho

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  ·  8 days ago

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Keep it up !👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

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  ·  8 days ago

thank for the bot :)

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  ·  8 days ago

Cool

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  ·  8 days ago

like your entry! Hope it can win ;) Btw, my upvote doesn't worth anything 'cuz I'm a newbie here, but I'm posting this comment as a support. If you want, you can check my introduction post and leave me some feedback. And yeah, I'm 20 :) PEACE!

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  ·  8 days ago

Good profil grumpy

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  ·  8 days ago

like your entry! Hope it can win ;) Btw, my upvote doesn't worth anything 'cuz I'm a newbie here, but I'm posting this comment as a support. If you want, you can check my introduction post and leave me some feedback. And yeah, I'm 20 :) PEACE!

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  ·  8 days ago

Just bought 100 k. follow for follow : D

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  ·  8 days ago

I think if you get wind of this from the wrong direction it is very easy to see @grumpycat as the bad guy, glad I saw this post now and understand clearly what your intentions are.

Thank you for your hard work.

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  ·  8 days ago

Q honda

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  ·  8 days ago

gran post amigo.

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  ·  5 days ago

I think the experimental website I built would be a good tool for you.
https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@firedream/steembotanalysis

https://botanalyse.neocities.org/

I would really like your comments.
FD.

31
  ·  8 days ago

Excellent post, I follow you.

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  ·  8 days ago

Good

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  ·  8 days ago

It would be interesting to see how this all plays out. As newly developed service that will consolidate blog post into one advertisement post and bid it to the top, not sure how this will play out with grumpy. All interesting times ahead!

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  ·  8 days ago

I do not approve the boots, everything is good

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  ·  8 days ago

That's nice post, most people come to make money, but making a content post without having significant gains discourage you, I try to create original content and my posts are valued, u get my vote...
Guys u can follow me ill follow you back!

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  ·  8 days ago

Hey Grumpy cat, through you flaggin that lost of dinero, I found out a lot more about the ubderlying success of many accounts on this platform. Are they're ways of using (and if so how) voting bots properly? What is your suggestion to grow a loyal team, support systemmand following on this platform?

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  ·  8 days ago

Thank you @checkthisout for making a transfer to me for an upvote of 39.19% on this post! Half of your bid goes to @budgets which funds growth projects for Steem like our top 25 posts on Steem! The other half helps holders of Steem power earn about 60% APR on a delegation to me! For help, will you please visit https://jerrybanfield.com/contact/ because I check my discord server daily? To learn more about Steem, will you please use http://steem.guide/ because this URL forwards to my most recently updated complete Steem tutorial?

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  ·  8 days ago

change

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  ·  8 days ago

well, I suppose this is needed to discourage those who tend to abuse the system

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  ·  8 days ago

Grumpy cat wins!

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  ·  8 days ago

I dont have a problem if you're doing this with your own original content. If you're plagiarizing or trying to pull some shady bs, now we have a problem.

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  ·  4 days ago

Hi grumpycat, you just came over and pissed on one of my articles that was nowhere nnear last minute, AND was a good post. Can you be a little more careful please? I take my blog very seriously and have a proven repetoire of good quality posts. Kindly do not mess around with one of the good guys — sheesh!!!

My post was from fucking YESTERDAY!!!

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  ·  8 days ago

At some point it will no longer be profitable

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  ·  8 days ago

So the problem is that people post, wait 6 days and then buy big votes in the last minute getting a part of the pie? Is buying a vote on your new post a problem?

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  ·  8 days ago

It is if you're using bots that also sell votes to post that are past 3.5 days.

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  ·  8 days ago

Great way to protect authors as well!
This was one of the things that actualy bothered me! You guys are doing amazing job.
Keep it up!
Resteemed!

36
  ·  8 days ago

This is my first week on Steemit. The more posts I read, the greater the learning curve appears to be. I love it.